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Of course they'll try to deny this due to the fact that they don't want their uninformed majority to catch on and will just label us as a bunch of crazies due to the fact they've been so simplified that they think in a 2 dimensional sense, to be with the majority or to be on the opposing side. Of course if you have any sort of ability to think for yourself you'll see that this is absolutely ludicrous but unfortunately until people are willing to be themselves this way of life will persist. The materialistic and conformist way of life that people live is what allows them to get away with this by dividing people into groups based on certain traits. Thing is that so many people give into this life filled with propaganda they throw their minds away and think one with a crowd. When they already know how to work these groups to get what they want and succeed in doing so. They want a uninformed majority of conformists. Not a informed minority of thinkers and are trying to erase us.They did have a choice to vote. They tried peaceful change first via petitioning and such. But being a minority group (not in power), their voice was ignored. A free people revolts at the ballot box... If the Founders had a choice to vote or war, which would they have chosen?Thats where we need to start though. Only the strong will survive. But the strongest will be grouped together, because it is the smart thing, and as a group they would have the same ideas. From there the right gov't structure will be produced, and in the end, only the best structure will survive, for it had the most people under it because it is the best structured. I think for those why say such things like down with the government. They are not thinking to clearly. If there was no government it would be hell on earth, literally. What I mean is imagine a place where there is no laws,,and no one to back up any laws. That would mean if your neighbor wants your tv,,your kid or wife,,or your life,,then all they got to do is come take it, with only you alone to stop them, how long you think you can be the tough guy? There is always another tougher! What kind of cost are we talking about? Blood and violence? Economic depression? Civil war?
Most governments are corrupt.
I think there should be another revolution in America, the govermnent is too corrupt. Reform will get us nowhere. The government cant fix itself. But it will come at a cost.